Larry. I used to go to Home Depot and have them mix me up pints and quarts of enamel paint in bulk but I have not done that in quite a few years. Thanks! Add reducer to a separate measuring cup; the ratio is 4:1 of paint to reducer. The reason why I say there's no set ratio is simply that paint  viscosity can vary from one colour to another within the same manufacturer's range, even between jars of the same colour from different production batches. Can't speak for MM thinner with there paints but I use Humbrol paints mainly and found there thinner is great for cleaning but gp thinner is better for spraying, all the MM paints I have used have been great. T he question of whether or not you can use enamel paint in an airbrush is often raised, particularly as enamel paints are known for being durable and for having a glossy finish. Any recommendation would be appreciated,as i am really happy to start building the model. • Use Majic Tractor, Truck, & Implement Enamel. It is easier to start too thick and add thinner, than it is to start too thin and add paint. Enamel paints have been on the market for many years and in that time have seen significant improvements. In order to achieve such outcomes. Generally speaking, you want your paint to be abot the consistency of low-fat milk. Welcome to the world of airbrushing! Use a ratio of 3:1 paint to thinners mix to start with, and do a test spray. Of course to each his own preference, but from my strictly personal feelings I most heartily agree with Snibs, about respiratory protection. The paint seems to go on a bit dryer, which seems to make it look flatter. You will not want your material to be too small or over-diluted. Simply add the thinner to your paint, mix to the recommended ratio os 20 to 30% to 1. for it. There was a period when the Testors thinner was not easily available, and I learned to use the hardware store mineral spirits for thinning too. Personally, I like to run my Tamiya paints very thin, moreso than other s here, but that's what I'm used to and I'm sure others might have difficulty in using the same mix that I do. Airbrush acrylic paint is the most commonly used medium preferred by artists. “Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”. If you are going to use oil-based paints, start by adding a small amount of thinner. I will be getting a proper resperator before i spray enamel. Never add thinner to the paint jar. And what thinner I could use. 6681 views. By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. When comfortable with those basics then I'll practice modeling spray paddern with mm enamel. Thanks. if it really is too thin even for that add a drop or two and mix then should be right! Enamel paint is a substance that has been available for many years, the technology for which has progressed significantly. There is no hard and fast rule, but the usual consensus is to thin to the consistency of 2% milk. Mixing the right consistency is vital for the airbrush and paint to work together. And yes, practice with what you plan to use. I mix to about 60% Tamiya X20A thinner to 40% Winsor & Newton Galleria fluid retarder. Member since September 2010; From: California ; Thinning Mig paints for airbrush. As far as practice,I say practice with what you plan to use,not something different.Every paint acts different. You should proceed very carefully, because an extremely small amount is usually enough to make a big difference. how to use knowledge is to have wisdom. " Airbrush Thinning Ratios In general when spraying paints through Aztek airbrushes, the paint should be the consistency of whole milk or thinner. I have very limited space but have sliding window in my shop room. Gloss enamel takes a long time to dry. Remember that thinner works more aggressively as compared to water. I planned on using this for touch up and repair if needed. That's about what you want. Just want to also add that the paint needs to be more thinned if one is spraying (1) on a lower pressure or (2) using a smaller needle. All enamel paints are recognized for their glossy finish and durability. I have a metallic blue which isnt available in the aerosol range. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools Airbrushing paint with all the variability involved can never be an exact science, but practice practice practice with what you have, if thrown a curve ball by a new jar of paint, watch the ball and then hit a homer. I'm just getting started airbrushing - I bought a Paasche VLS set and a Kalmbach book on airbrushing but I can't find any references to the ratio of paint to thinner when mixing paint for use. Dare I say at the risk of starting another mask debate, a $30 organic mask can't hurt, some live in the fumes without any problems and some get a sniff of spray and get warm fuzzy or thumping headaches, so ill just say can it hurt to wear one? I use mainly Tamiya Acrylic paints and I have a small compressor with a regulator. Simply put, enamels are designed to achieve a durable, shiny finish once cured. Richie Thanks Top. Enamel has kinda of been a little unnerving for me due to using mineral spirits to thin and clean. In addition to the usual specifications of resin and hardener in a ratio of 1 : 1 or even 2 : 1, the manufacturer’s specifications sometimes also include much more complicated variants such as 100 : 45. I use 15 psi for gloss finish, 20 for flats. For reference I use mostly Badger and some Paasche AB's, primarily dual action internal mix, gravity and siphon feed. My respirator has replaceable cartridges, available at about any auto body or safety supply store, quite inexpensive. Thinning Mig paints for airbrush. Different colors can require varying amounts of thinner, and I use anywhere from 60-80% paint. If required, it can take a LOT more thinning than that, like outlining camo or spot spraying. To know is not Charles Spurgeon, Tools, Techniques, and Reference Materials. But first, let’s go into detail as to why enamel paints must be thinned to the correct viscosity before use in an airbrush! However, a mix of ~30% paint … I understand that their recommended ratios are 1:3 and 2:3; would it be safe to assume that this is optimal for basic coverage? Using a Metallic Acrylic Paint for Airbrushing It is often used for painting miniatures and plastic models. Changing one part will affect the others and you will always need to be ready to compensate "as required". The nice thing about Tamiya Acrylics is how readily they can be removed with Windex (or other alcohol/ammonia based cleaner). • Add 1/2 pint of Majic Catalyst Hardener to each gallon of paint (16:1). As a refresher, Enamel paint is essentially a term that means: Hard & Glossy finish. Best to all, good modeling. We do not sell, rent or trade our email lists. Just about any primer works with enamel as well when or if you need one, enamel will stick to plastic very well without a primer which is handy at times. However, most Enamel Paints can be a bit thick to be used with an airbrush immediately, so it needs to be thinned. Alclad and Vallejo Model Air can be shot straight out of the bottle. But most Enamel Paints are a little to thick to be used with … Thinning Enamel Paint: With a List of Thinners That Work. I completely agree with all the above, for MM enamel I start with about 1;3 thinner to paint ratio, then doctor it as I go to meet my specific needs. If you don't want to use these, then buy some $1 store ammonia and mix it 50-50 with 91% isopropyl alcohol to flush-out your brush, then rinse with hot water. I finally built a dryer box, heated by a 60 W incandescent bulb. I also set the AB at about 10-12 PSI. Tip # 1: The correct Mixing Ratio. For reference I use mostly Badger and some Paasche AB's, primarily dual action internal mix, gravity and siphon feed. For the final coat of a gloss finish I do use more thinner, as much as 1 part paint to 2 parts thinner. On occasion I find that the 3>2 isn't quite thin enough & required slightly more thinner - but not much & it doesn't happen very often. When mixing tinlet enamel paint (in my case, Humbrol) is it correct to use a ratio of 1 part paint to 2 parts enamel thinners? For some applications where I want better coverage, I might use 40% paint. That's good, as I said it can't hurt, another thing it's good for is when using Mr Muscle, that stuff burns if you inhale any. The ratio of thinner to paint naturally varies based on the paint. I use MM a lot and have found that if I thin it more, then it produces a super smooth finish. If you start with paint, the paint might get into the airbrush tube which could clog the brush or make it harder to clean. Hi - I think the reference is to booths which use an extractor fan having an electric motor with conventional brushes (motor components, not brushes to paint with), which can cause sparks, potentially hazardous in the presence of paint/thinner fumes. The following article will advise you on how you can use enamel paint with an airbrush. I've got a 1/2 gallon of ppg delstar I had mixed along with the paint I used to paint my truck. Having the means to control air flow via a pressure regulator will help fine tune the operation. Seems to me the finish is a bit rougher with the higher psi and resulting greater distance of airbrush from model. I used to use Testors thinner for airbrushing, mineral spirits for cleanup. I wonder How is the thining ratio for the enamel paint to use it with an airbrush. For more photos of my kits, visit my photo blog:http://vegeta8259.blogspot.com/vegeta8259's random ramblings on Twitter:https://twitter.com/vegeta8259 If the paint is over thinned, the paint cannot be thickened. I want to have the same level of safty with this hobby. Hello, a friend of mine brought me some Railmatch enamel colours on his last visit to the United Kingdom. Don't let yourself be limited to just those though; there is a huge selection of paints that can be used once they're mixed with thinner/reducer. A good starting point is 3 parts paint to 1 part thinner and adjust as required. I'm using a 155 anthem btw. It is better to approach the right color slowly. First of all, when mixing epoxy resin, you should be aware that the resin can have different mixing ratios depending on the manufacturer. Avoid painting when relative humidity is above 85% or during periods of rain, fog, or snow. Do not put in too much in the beginner. I use enamels- usually Testors- exclusively. I have to use a little more of it than with the Testors stuff. But to know Below you will discover how to use enamel paint with your airbrush. Not ours. Without thinning, clogging occurs. I don't know how great the risk actually is - I suspect not very, but I claim no authority on this. Any external mix 'brush and acrylics will have this to deal with. After reading this article, you will know which thinners to use with Enamel Paints and which should not be used, or how the results will be. Clean brushes and equipment immediately after use with the solvent or thinner recommended in the Technical Data chart for each system. This has eliminated tip try for me. BondoKing's Profile; E-mail BondoKing ; Top Contributor. Don, what's your reason for using a different PSI for flats as opposed to glos. However, for mixing latex paints, a general rule of thumb is mixing 1/4 cup of water for every 1 gallon of paint. Tamiya's recommended 3 paint to 2 thinner works just fine for me - the rule of thumb seems to be to match the consistency of milk. I also lube my airbrush needle, which may help as well. I do wish everyone good health, exposure to paint product fumes over the years can actually pose a significant risk, to perhaps some more than others. View our, Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. Why Enamel Paint Must Be Thinned Before Application. Well I need it and I have lost the mix ratio. Modelmaster is good stuff,very easy to use,good coverage.I don't use an exact ratio,I just eyeball it to the consistancy of skim milk.If I had to guess,I probably use 7-3 paint to thinner,but it's not an exact science.I shoot at 15-20 psi.8-10 for detailed camo. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Exceptions are noted in the Technical Data charts, separate literature and labels. For best results Tamiya acrylic paint should be thinned with Tamiya acrylic thinners to a ratio of approximately 1:1, and airbrushed at the lowest possible air pressure setting that gives proper paint atomisation and coverage. Same for the PSI as well. One thing to realize is that air brushing is a balance between paint, thinner and air pressure. Enamel paints have a smooth, professional surface after varnish after drying and often give a very good result with an airbrush. Use a 1:1 ratio and mix your rubbing alcohol and paint, then spray with the airbrush. Do you or anyone reading this have any recommendations. Probably the best enamel paint you can use is One Shot. They all seem to have a disclaimer not to use flammable paints. If required, it can take a LOT more thinning than that, like outlining camo or spot spraying. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Now i saw in this forum that enamel colors need to be thinned with thinner(i have color mix from revell), but i don't know exactly how much is needed in order to paint the body, and how to mix them with thinner. I use either cheap brake or carb cleaner in a spray can with the tube up the paint jar holder and spary it into a rag when I'm finished painting. I spray with Tamiya paints exclusively, and I'll usually mix 3 parts paint to 2 parts thinner, or sometimes even 1 to 1. The paint I picked up is model master with a jar of their thinner. I use muffin fans (brushless) in my booths for that reason. 747 586. I start thinning at 1:1, then add one or the other as I begin spraying if need be. 747 586. Do not to over thin flat Enamels, as they can turn to a gloss if over thinned. There is no hard and fast rule, but the usual consensus is to thin to the consistency of 2% milk. I completely agree with all the above, for MM enamel I start with about 1;3 thinner to paint ratio, then doctor it as I go to meet my specific needs. Chris A good starting point is 3 parts paint to 1 part thinner and adjust as required. Allow it to sit approximately 20 minutes before using. For example, if one is using 20-30psi and a Badger Patriot with the 5mm needle, not having accurate thinning isn't as a big of  a deal as using 6-10psi and a Badger Velocity with the 2mm needle. Vallejo Model Color is much thicker than is Vallejo Model Air and requires diluting to ~10-15% paint. As thinner I use Gum Turpentine from Home Depot (med. View our, Tools, Techniques, and Reference Materials. You're looking for something around milk. The rubbing alcohol should easily be found in most crafts stores and Walmart. Anybody out there know what it is? Because my friend forgot to bought … P_Budzik. Most paints designed for airbrushes do not need to be thinned, and are ready to be sprayed right out of the bottle. So, to summarise, a "milk like" consistency will put you on the field and then you might need to fine-tune to find what's ideal for you. What I do is mix the thinner and retarder in a polyethylene dropper bottle. ( 2 or 3 drops thinner to 10 drops paint) and your done. Tamiya acrylic ranges from 1:1 to 2:1 thinner-to-paint depending on the airbrush, the age of the paint, etc. Hi - I think the reference is to booths which use an extractor fan having an electric motor with conventional brushes (motor components, not brushes to paint with), which can cause sparks, potentially hazardous in the presence of paint/thinner fumes. Why do I suggest the above ratio? I'm a long time modeler but new to airbrushing. Practice, practice, practice is required to become proficient at air brushing, and I encourage you to practice on a model, rather than on paper or cardboard. How To Airbrush Tamiya Acrylic Paint. Paper and cardboard are fine for learning how to control the paint flow, so you can spray thin or tapered lines, but paper is absorbent and flat, and styrene is not! Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. A good starting point is 3 parts paint to 1 part thinner and adjust as required. I might thin a little more for finer detail painting. Order Ascending; Order Descending; mikeymize. There are many different types of paint that can be sprayed through an airbrush. Thanks . I am looking at giving enamel paint a shot. Sacrificing a cheap kit is much better than suffering the frustration of removing a bad paint job from a $50 kit. The required consistency may also vary depending on your equipment setup and your own individual painting style. Posted by mikeymize on Saturday, August 26, 2017 1:51 PM I'm spraybrushing Mig Ammo paints for the first time and would like to know whether I can use the Vallejo thinner or should I use the Ammo type … Booths with brushless motors do not have this problem. Another thing to check is your actual airbrush. Air and water propel the paint. The hardener will have a pot life of about 8 hours. To mix into your airbrush cup, you should: Add 2-3 drops of water or thinner to the airbrush cup. Our community is FREE to join. Booths with brushless motors do not have this problem. Mix thoroughly. Hey mick, I headed your comment in my safty thread. 6 replies. Once the amount of reducer is measured, add it to the paint. But that ratio sounds about right. I'll echo Tojo, I use the eyeball method. Our community is FREE to join. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. This method of thinning acrylic craft paint for airbrushing is very effective and affordable, as it only costs about 77 cents a bottle. Although the paint performs flawlessly straight from the bottle thinning it down with our Thinner / Reducer brings out the best. Mission Models thinner is also your airbrush cleaner. I also find that if it is a tad thin, just build up the color rather than add more paint. I use not only an actual spray booth with filter and fan exhaust, but as well, an exterior discharge 4 inch hose that is positively sealed at vent port in window frame. Seems that it is 6-8-1 but I'm not sure. Enamel paints are great for painting a lot of different materials. I then mix the Tamiya paint 50/50 with the thinner/retarder mixture. I will not go out without a helmet. Reply; Edit; emswife. I don't know how great the risk actually is - I suspect not very, but I claim no authority on this. What about air pressure? Otherwise, it will no longer be active. Do not be tempted to put thinned paint back into the jar. Airbrush Paint Mixing. The question is can you use enamel paint with an airbrush? P_Budzik. Thinned paint is paint that is starting to bind, and you will only ruin your paint. Stir the mixture of paint and reducer with a stir stick. another thought I have is to practice abing, would it be a good idea to pick up a bottle of artist airbrush paint such as golden to get the hand of the basics? Enamel paints have a very smooth, professional finish once they are dry and they are most often used with an airbrush. MM enamel seems very adaptable to any of my equipment. I ordering both shortly after the holiday. I need a small indoor paint booth. There's really no set ratio, though some are likely to siggest various ratios to you. Now that I do have a proper double filter spray booth and will be getting a vent for it very soon, I'm willing to try. "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace. It's the same for me when I'm out cycling. sized can)which also produces an excellent artist oil paint wash. Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!! Acrylic paints dry quickly, are easy to clean and have no odors. Many people are intimidated by airbrushing with enamel paints as acrylic is usually the go-to for beginners. The amount of PSI and the amount of trigger pull and paint reaction is different with different paints.Also paint behaves diffrently on paper then model plastic.So I don't know how much it will help. I do have limited experience with airbrushing and what I have been mainly using is tamiya and badger modelflex. Once the mixture is stirred well, pour it into a clean paint can, and close the lid to keep the paint fresh. All of the dilutions provided in this article pertain to Vallejo Model Air. And if you're used to mixing your own colors, it is my first choice. For gloss I like to get up close and really put on wet layers, which calls for a lower pressure and more needle. Airbrush paints are mixed together to create color gradations and transitions. This is where a little trial and error comes in, but once you work it out it becomes second nature. Ditto on the above comments, practice with the paint you intend to use on a old model. Adding the Paint—Finally: For average airbrushing jobs, I dilute Vallejo Model Air (not Vallejo Model Color) and LifeColor to roughly ~30% or ~1/3 paint in the appropriate Thinner-Liquitex mix. A general rule of thumb is to thin your paint down to the consistency of milk. "-George Washington, By signing up you may also receive reader surveys and occasional special offers. 4 years ago. I'm not lecturing or criticizing, just suggesting, please take it as such. Paints designed for airbrushes do not need to be sprayed through an airbrush use with... 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